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ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinMeta w Blocking and Downvote Stalking
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Bad idea imo.

Blocking someone means, "I want nothing to do with this person," so it makes sense that you'll be unable to see what they do. This should include direct messages, threads, comments, etc. @PugJesus's idea of a setting to hide votes from blocked users is a great idea, as you should be able to fully ignore someone you've blocked.

It also makes sense that someone you've blocked wouldn't be able to do any 1-on-1 interaction with you. If you've blocked somebody because they're spamming or harassing you, it wouldn't be great for them to be able to DM you.

However, preventing them from voting on your posts is something different entirely, as votes don't just concern the creator of the post and the person doing the voting; they also concern everyone who sees the post. Upvoting a comment is a message not just to the creator but also to everyone else that you like that comment, and the same goes for downvoting. Blocking voting is much more farther reaching than blocking DMs, and with votes being visible on the fediverse, it's a great way for trolls to hide people's views on their posts.


EDIT: Typo

wagesj45,
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But if a troll blocks everyone that down votes them, eventually no one will be left to see their stuff. It is a self solving problem. On the other hand, a troll that you block can interfere with your stuff being shown to others depending on the sorting algorithm.

daredevil, do kbinDevlog w RTR#40 Further planning of the ActivityPub module, something is happening regarding mobile apps

Happy to hear you're getting some time in for yourself. The constant updates have been a joy, but downtime is important too.

NumbersCanBeFun, do kbinDevlog w RTR#39 Further development of the ActivityPub module
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  • ernest,
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    Sure thing, I've noted that some accounts are stuck in the queue for deletion. This typically applies to older accounts. I'm currently working on it, and everything should be functioning properly soon. Your request is in the queue. Sorry for that.

    nicetriangle, do kbinDevlog w RTR#39 Further development of the ActivityPub module
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    Exciting stuff!

    kubica, do kbinDevlog w RTR#38 User profile, tag and search page filters, API deployment progress
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    Something is looking weird with the "top" tab, It only offers to filter until 12 hours.
    And I can't access the section "All Content".

    kubica,
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    Not sure if something was done to fix the "top" filtering. But now I'm seeing the other options again.

    GeekFTW,
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    I still see just 3h/6h/12h.

    ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinMeta w I'm starting to see some serious downsides to being able to see who downvotes you.
    @ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

    While that's definitely a notable downside, I think the upsides outweigh it.

    For one, being able to see upvotes & downvotes seems to have made a lot of people a bit more thoughtful with handing them out. This obviously isn't the case for everyone — there's still a good bit of downvoting people for disagreeing with the hivemind — but I and others have observed that downvote quality is a lot better here on kbin.social, and I think that vote visibility is a big part of that.

    It's also just transparency on kbin.social's part. If votes federate, anyone can set up an instance to view your votes or just go to one that shows them. Someone could literally make a website listing downvotes throughout the fediverse, and there's nothing stopping them. Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes on the fediverse can be accessed by the public, and I have no issue with that.

    EDITː Removed a stray asterisk

    livus,
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    @ThatOneKirbyMain2568

    Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes* on the fediverse can be accessed by the public

    This is important. The kind of petty, persevering trolls that @billothekid2 is worried about are exactly the kind of people who'd be likely to look up who downvoted them.

    Kbin just makes it clear to us that this info is out there. Anonymous voting isn't possible in federated social media.

    jwr1, do kbinDevlog w RTR#38 User profile, tag and search page filters, API deployment progress
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    Hey @ernest, not sure if you saw my question here (https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/p/3482999) or not, but I was wondering what the recommended way to authenticate a user with the kbin API that allows federated use. From what I understand, the way it's currently set up is that developers have to register an oauth client with a kbin server in order to authenticate users from an external client. Does that mean every kbin server we want an external client to connect to has to register with oauth?

    ernest,
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    Oh, I must have missed your question, sorry. I'll answer it when I get back home.

    ernest, do kbinDevlog w RTR#37 Fixing bugs and further optimization work, continued
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    The instance has been successfully updated. It should be a bit better in this regard. Changes to the user profile are also now visible.

    dekkzz76,
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    @ernest

    any new moderation tools?

    dekkzz76,
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    @ernest

    total silence, to be expected features trump user safety

    ernest,
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    Sorry, due to recent work, I missed a few notifications. Moderation tools have been consistently expanded over the past month. I have one more specific thing on the to-do list, and I just need to create a team of global moderators. This is my goal for the coming month. Further work on the ActivityPub module will also primarily involve improving communication between instances related to moderation.

    ThatOneKirbyMain2568,
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    Nice to see sort options on the user profile! It's great to see all the progress that Kbin is making.

    Jonny, do kbinDevlog w /kbin RTR#5 Transfer request for ownership of abandoned magazines
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    Just wondering, does anyone know how long it usually is for ownership change to be approved? I applied for one a few days ago, and just wondered how long it might take. Thanks in advance!

    ernest,
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    Done!

    Jonny,
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    oh thank you! I hadn't meant to badger you, but thank you again!

    DessertStorms, (edited ) do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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    I'm really liking the "new comments" feature, would it be possible to make it visible from profile overview as well as on the main feed? No big deal if not 👍

    E: blimey, that was quick! Thanks!

    ernest,
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    DessertStorms, (edited )
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    No, more like this

    Screen is from main feed, but I had just seen it happen in my overview page (my profile), hence my edit to my earlier comment, but it happened on a post I made, and isn't on others, so that might have already existed?

    ThatOneKirbyMain2568,
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    Wait, there's a feed for all comments on kbin.social? That's interesting.

    testing, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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    @ernest
    RTR#32 Voting Bug Report:

    • upvoting any post in the microblogging section of the random magazine does not work
    livus, do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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    @ernest this is amazing.

    But I worry that you don't get enough time off on the weekends! Please do take some time for yourself as well.

    jwr1, (edited ) do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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    Also, I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but I've noticed posts don't seem to show up in feeds until they have at least one favorite. This post, for instance, wasn't in https://kbin.social/c/kbin initially, but once I upvoted it, it showed up. Maybe it doesn't qualify as "hot" if it has zero votes.

    Teppic,
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    I think it is down to not qualifying as hot. If you sort by new after posting you'll likely be able to see them.

    jwr1, do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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    Additionally, I plan to launch an API on a secondary instance to avoid disrupting work on applications.

    Sounds great! I was literally just wondering about that.

    Kierunkowy74, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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