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KiESi, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I gave Linux Mint a try last week when I received the news about the obligatory MS account for W11. Not that I’ll “upgrade” to W11 but anyway.

Very smooth installation experience. The OS and software like Steam, Brave, Nvidia drivers and some audio & video stuff installed through the package control in no time. I could actually work with it.

Half of my game library is made only for W though. Or the small blocker things like GTA V that works well in Mint in story mode, the Battleye thing won’t start of course, so expect no GTA Online in Mint either.

I think I’ll keep Linux Mint and Windows under dual boot and use Windows only when necessary. Or run W10 in a virtual box in Mint 😎.

clubb,
@clubb@lemmy.world avatar

Thing is, before battleye, gta online worked perfectly. I played it for years on every remotely popular linux distro, from debian, to ubuntu, linux mint, fedora etc. It’s just the fucking anticheat.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Dual boot is the way for right now. Proton is huge, but there are still a good number of games with compatibility issues or rootkit anticheats. Personally I advise steering clear of the latter, but that’s neither here nor there.

I use CachyOS as my daily driver and booted up the Windows partition maybe 3 times since setting this up back in February (and most of those times were just to play REPO because Elgato hardware with dual input and output has serious issues with Linux, but I’ve sorted that out now with a workaround)

CCMan1701A,

I was able to run SimTower on Linux. I haven’t tried SimCoopter, but there are so many bugs in that game it likely won’t work lol

SolidShake, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Make the jump to Linux and loose 90% of the games you play as well. If all you play is steam games and don’t care about many that can’t be played then sure. I get the appeal. But windows 11 is the same thing as 10.

y0kai,

90%?

Do you only play games with kernel level anti-cheat? Because those are literally the only games i haven’t been able to play, and fortunately for me I don’t want to play those games.

SolidShake,

I play many kinds of games. Using a Windows emulator in Linux doesn’t count as “running on Linux”

y0kai,

Lol what

DesolateMood,

Ha, get a load of this guy, he thinks wine is an emulator!

Link,

You should look up what Wine stands for.

DrSteveBrule,

If the game plays on your linux distro who cares what you call it?

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Wine sometimes gains performace over windows though, so why do you care?

TimeSquirrel,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

loose 90% of the games you play as well

It's 2025, not 2007. This is a huge exaggeration. Maybe try it again sometime.

SolidShake,

I might when the DAWs I use will work natively.

Random123,

Yeah you definitely didn’t play on Linux for more than 5 minutes

SolidShake,

I use DAWs, havent had luck with wine not crashing games. So yes. You MUST be right, haven’t used Linux at all actually. Just saw a word document about it. God you people are the worst

kittenzrulz123,

Pretty much, 1% of games don’t work on Linux and its the top 1% most popular games

SolidShake,

My problem is 100% of the DAWs I use don’t work on Linux

kittenzrulz123,

Yeah, sometimes there are software that just won’t have a Linux version. Thats to be expected because Linux isnt a Windows clone so itll never run all Windows software. If that software is important to you I would reccomend just installing Windows 11.

Zahille7, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

I’ve been going fucking wild with emulators lately.

I have Dolphin, Xenia, OpenGOAL, PCSX2 and RPCS3. I have Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Heroes, Sonic '06, all the Ratchet & Clank PS2 games, the Sly Cooper trilogy and Sly 4, all the Jak games, the first two InFamous games, the Tak trilogy, and even more.

I was wanting Sony (or someone) to port at least Sly and Jak to PC, so I got tired of waiting and just got emulators. Old games are super fun.

Adulated_Aspersion,

I was wanting Sony (or someone) to port at least Sly and Jak to PC

Same for me on infamous. Come on Sony.

Zahille7,

With InFamous, RPCS3 works damn near flawlessly (some games need some tweaking individually to smooth out some kinks, but it’s easy to do).

I ran into some issues late-game in the first one where if you attacked a certain enemy with your basic shock attack, it would totally freeze and crash the game, so you need to switch it to the ASMJIT recompiler. Which, if you do that, the game will run almost perfectly aside from minor audio and graphical bugs.

The second one has some framerate issues, but it’s entirely playable. I’m on the last mission of my good playthrough now.

bzah, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@bzah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I will dualboot to keep a windows 10 for software that only runs on it, but I really hope I will be able to be gaming on linux only.

Nighed, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Nighed@feddit.uk avatar

Build new computer. Old computer to be a home server running Linux or something fancy.

celeste, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

I can't afford a new computer right now and tariffs meaning higher prices means I can't anticipate affording one in the near future. My plan is to see where everything's at when they stop doing updates. Unfortunately.

Random123,

You can likely use that same pc for linux if youre open to that

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

I'm somewhat open to the idea, but the thought of messing up and not having any computer other than my phone until i figure it out is tough to get over.

ninjaturtle,
@ninjaturtle@lemmy.today avatar

If you can install another driver onto the computer, you can put Linux on that and kept the windows OS still, in case you need it. This is dual booting. You chose which OS you want when booting up.

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

Is this something that's relatively fool proof to do? I'm very good at imagining disasters. That's the big mental block I got when I thought about dual booting before.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

If you install ventoy on a usb and put windows and bazzite on it, you can easily switch between things.

i have 15 years of experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot on matrix

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

Thank you! The wall in my brain keeping me from doing it is a bit smaller now

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

note that you should absolutely make a backup of all your important files before you muck about with installing different operating systems, it will wipe your drive, so, yeah.

if you do that and have both on a ventoy usb it is pretty much impossible to fuck something up

histic,

As long as you go with a mainstream distro you can’t really mess it up if you play games try bazzite it’s a atomic distro so it’s hard to break since the system files are read only and if an update breaks it has a duplicate file system to fall back on from before the update and is just as easy if not easier then windows to install

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

That sounds pretty cool, actually, that it.s protected against me breaking it. I've always got that worry

daggermoon,

You could always reinstall Windows if something does go wrong. Just create an installer USB as backup.

InfiniteHench, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

I might get downvoted or whatever but Windows 11 is fine. I get it if your PC straight up can’t run it, that’s a tough spot. But as an OS it’s fine, even has a few handy features (besides all the AI crap shoehorned in). I actually like the File Explorer changes and the window snap stuff can work in the right setting.

Random123,

I think for many people its about how invasive it is to your privacy. Especially with the upcoming changes where you be forced to sign in with their microsoft account.

MellowYellow13,

No it isnt, the bloat is actually insane.

InfiniteHench,
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

Can I ask how you got Win11? And are we talking MS feature bloat or third party stuff? I had Micro Center build my PC so it didn’t come from a manufacturer. There doesn’t seem to be any third party bloat, besides the occasional fucking ad for an app in the Start menu.

Jrockwar,

The ads for apps, Xbox games, trial versions of Office preinstalled, the minesweeper and solitaire collection that are preinstalled but actually ad supported or non-free, depending on the region spotify/TikTok/Facebook also come preinstalled, “Movies & TV”, Bing/MS News…

I think all of those count as bloat. I haven’t included Edge because I guess having a browser is a necessity, or copilot/cortana because you said “excluding AI features”.

Thadrax,

You can turn it off/remove the stuff though. Annoying, but tbh. less work than every time I had to dig into ProtonDB to get some issues resolved.

daggermoon,

The reason I switched from Windows is the telemetry. Yes, you can disable it but I don’t know for sure it’s actually off. I’m sure it has other back doors too. It sucks because they had something great with Windows 7 and they ruined it. Also, forcing an online account really pissed me off. I couldn’t even install WSL without using the Microsoft Store. Funny enough, the complaint I remember most about Windows 11 didn’t bother me at all. The start menu being in the center I kinda liked. I remember using an app on Windows 10 to achieve the same thing.

YoiksAndAway, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I think I’m going to get the $30 1-year ESU and kick that can down the road. I need to run windows-only software and I can’t upgrade because of my processor. Maybe in a year’s time I’ll be ready for a new build.

MellowYellow13, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Went to Linux a couple months ago, its freaking awesome, you’ll never look back. And it is way easier to use than people make it out to be. Also my PC has never been faster thanks to having zero bloat.

karashta, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Jumping to Linux just picking a distro

Kalon, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Been using Linux since 2005. Really don’t understand why so many people put up with Microsoft planned obsolescence, spyware, ads, etc. Linux is easier now than it’s ever been. Most things work out of the box if you pick a reasonable distro. If you’re going to be pushed to learn a new paradigm, do it once more by learning Linux and stop being pushed.

mooncake, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@mooncake@lemm.ee avatar

I upgraded to Windows 11.

I tried Linux but but so much stuff isn’t supported so I got rid of it.

histic,

What other then adobe and rootkit anti cheat’s don’t work

crusa187,

For gaming, It’s mostly niche windows things in my experience. In my case I opted to stay on linux anyway. Also worth noting, I find that outside of gaming linux is superior for work and general pc use.

Some manufacturer programs for doing things like mouse macros or controlling LED lighting, auto hotkey scripts, some types of overlays tied to directx apis (yolomouse), etc. These things don’t and probably will never work. I think some of them might if you really know your stuff with wine, but that usually ends up being dependency hell for me and I give up more often than succeeding when trying to force a windows native program to run.

histic,

For the first 2 there are 3rd party programs for it the rest yea probably won’t work

crusa187,

Yeah I’m aware of openrgb, it has limited compatibility but seems to work ok for most of my stuff. Still haven’t found a great way to run my favorite corsair keyboard reactive lighting theme I had setup with their software in windows, but what I came up with in openrgb is good enough.

However, I didn’t think it was possible to run autoIt or autoHotkey at all in Linux. Are you suggesting a Python script to replace it, or something else? AHK has a very peculiar syntax which I don’t believe would translate well to other languages.

histic,

Depends if your on x11 or Wayland ahk does have a port to x11 scripts do require modification otherwise ydotool is available on Wayland I haven’t done much research into it but appears it can do a lot of what you might want

crusa187,

Hey that’s pretty cool, I happen to be on x11 still but plan to switch to Wayland once Cosmic is in beta.

This is great info, will look into this further. Ty!

MellowYellow13, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux is the way

B0NK3RS, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

I have an older pc that I use as a a Plex server so as soon as I get some time I will fully switch to Ubuntu.

commander, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

The more people hop onto Linux the faster and better funded support for Linux development becomes. If you’re a single player gamer or play Valve multiplayer games primarily, make the jump to Linux. Get on Mint, get on Fedora, Ubuntu, etc and get off Microsoft’s shitboat. You already took off from Reddit. Wean off all these other money/data leeches

Suck_on_my_Presence,

I’m on Mint and have been for 2-3 years now and I’ve never had any problems with non-valve multiplayer. I don’t use any VMs and just run everything through proton and have never struggled.

Battlebit, Helldivers, Lethal Company (+mods), Risk of Rain 2, Rocket League, Minecraft, and Split Fiction to name a few. I guarantee there are others I’ve played, but I can’t remember.

trouble,

Can Linux run Valorant?

Nephalis,

No Kernel level anti cheat will ever work on linux. But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.

pinball_wizard,

But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.

Sort of, right?

We know Windows will continue cracking down on kernel module adds, since the Crowd strike disaster.

But I figure most anti-cheat will just shift to non-kernel and keep working.

Of course, at that point most anti-cheat of will then work under Proton, on Linux, too.

Which was maybe your point.

Okay, I don’t think I added anything for you, but I’ll leave this in case it helps someone reading along with us.

Carrot,

Watching you reason this out was fun

bread,
@bread@feddit.nl avatar

No.

kazerniel,
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for this link, neat to see that Uncharted Waters Online apparently runs on Linux despite it’s ridiculously strict anti-cheat. (To this day it’s the only game I’ve played that had an issue with Process Explorer running in the background 🤦‍♂️)

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