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ImplyingImplications, do games w Any good games that break the mold

Personally, I really liked Papers, Please. You play as a customs agent checking people’s paperwork as they seek entry into your country. The idea of the game is very simple but it’s surprisingly good at telling a story and putting you in situations that are morally difficult.

ImplyingImplications, do games w RuneScape is increasing their membership price by 50%, and Reddit is trying to censor it

My brother has been playing for years and has a few paid accounts. Here’s how he explained it to me. All paid accounts had their prices locked in until you cancelled them. His first, and main, account had a price of $5 a month because he first bought it 15 years ago.

There are also “ironman” modes that exist in the main game. It’s an option at character creation that will restrict your account from trading with other players forcing you to obtain all items on your own instead of just buying them from the trade board. Since you need to make a new character, this is also another payment. My brother has two ironman accounts.

There are “leagues” which are new temporary servers where the rules are different and XP gain is incredibly fast. You’re given tasks to complete before the “league” ends and are awarded cosmetic items based on how much you complete. This requires its own paid account to play. My brother has one of these too.

In total he spent about $20 a month on the game for his various accounts. This change to the subscription will set every single one of his subscriptions to $14 a month raising his monthly payment to something like $56 a month which is ridiculous. He plans on ending all of his subscriptions since there is now no incentive to stay subscribed (the price is no longer locked in). So my brother, a long time and devoted customer, will play the game less and give less money because Jagex is hoping most people like him won’t go through the hassle of unsubscribing.

He, and lots of other long time players, are hoping that Jagex does what other MMOs do and allow multiple accounts for one subscription price.

ImplyingImplications, do games w Masters of Albion trailer, an in development god game x colony builder hybrid with custom crafting recipes (food, armour), custom building design and optional 3rd person combat from Peter Molyneux

“Peter Molyneux delivers God”

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

Control of the server is the DRM. Radical Heights sold hats for $15. How do they ensure only players who paid for hats get them and that non-paying players couldn’t just mod them in? They control that information on the server. Which accounts have cosmetics is controlled by the server. That’s the DRM. If they had to release the server when shutting down then they’d have no way to ensure only paying customers play the game since the person who runs the sever can modify it however they want. Everyone could get the $15 hats for free! Or maybe they charge $2 for the hats. There’s no DRM that could prevent this because control of the server is itself the DRM.

So a dev is being required by law to give out their game without any DRM meaning anyone can play it for free and even give themselves the cosmetics the original devs were using to pay the salaries of the dev team. I worry very much that this would cause companies to stop producing free to play games or charge a subscription for these types of games instead (since subscription based games would be exempt). I wonder why people would risk this to “save” games like Radical Heights which, in all likelihood, would have no community. A game doesn’t shutdown after 1 month because it has a thriving community

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

that’s not my job to figure out.

So you want people to follow a law without knowing how it should be followed? You signed a petition and now it’s someone else’s problem if they get in legal trouble or not? This makes the world a better place because it protects theoretical people?

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

How would access be enforced to only paying customers? That would require a server which the company is shutting down

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

So the devs give all the founders an empty map they can run around offline in and that fixes everything? The game hasn’t been killed? It’s been saved?

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

The cost of trying to do business? They made a product and nobody paid so now they have to give it away for free because they’re the greedy ones?

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

What about Free to Play games? Can they be shutdown?

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

You didn’t create those games. Games are products people work to produce. Radical Heights was a free to play game that was shutdown in a month. What would you force them to do? Release their server code for free so anybody can run a Radical Heights server that people can connect to and play? So a whole bunch of people who never gave the developers a cent have the right to demand the game be given to them simply because it existed for 1 month?

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

Oh no! Not Microsoft Bingo! That’s a list of D list games nobody has ever heard of that all shutdown years ago. I don’t think the world would be a better place if the devs of Radical Heights, a free to play arena shooter that was launched and shutdown a month later in 2018 were forced to give their game out to everyone for free after.

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

Who are the 99 other companies? Which games have they taken away?

ImplyingImplications, do games w Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp will end service in Nov 28 - but will transition to a paid offline app

Hi, industry bootlicker here! Nintendo is listening to their consumers. I was told corporations are evil and won’t listen to consumers and must be forced to do things by law. I much prefer consumers remain vocal about their wants because corporations do indeed listen. No government intervention required. I worry government rules could cause unintended problems that don’t benefit anybody.

ImplyingImplications, do games w Can anyone suggest some good co-op games for two people?

The “We Were Here” series is a fun puzzle co-op game. The first one’s free if you want to try before you buy.

ImplyingImplications, do games w Giant FAQ on The European Initiative to Stop Destroying Games!

Thanks for the lists! Delistedgames seems to focus more on games that aren’t sold anymore rather than shutdown. For example, they list Grand Theft Auto IV as a delisted game because they only sell Grand Theft Auto IV: Complete Edition now.

Weird that TVTropes seems to have a better list of games that not only aren’t sold anymore but don’t work even if you bought them. It’s an interesting list. I feel bad for all the people who played Family Guy Online for the 8 months it existed in 2012!

The Kotaku list is nice too but they do note that some of the games are still playable single player. It’s only the online multiplayer that’s not going to work since the servers are shutting down. I’m not sure how I feel about that one. Is it still killing a game if single player modes still work?

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